Gov. Gavin Newsom of California continues to engage audiences with his podcast, a project he launched over a year ago. On a recent episode, he invited Hunter Biden as his guest. This episode generated interest due to both men’s public profiles and controversial backgrounds.
Newsom, who governs the world’s fourth-largest economy, utilized the podcast platform effectively. He engaged in a 95-minute conversation with Hunter Biden, famously known as the son of the former U.S. president. Hunter, previously convicted, has been pardoned—a point he addressed during the podcast.
Hunter Biden has become widely recognized not only for personal challenges but also for the difficulties he has presented to his father’s political career. Lately, he has been candid on social media about past substance abuse. He has also hinted, jokingly or not, at a possible presidential run in 2028.
This podcast episode exemplifies what some in social media refer to as ‘engagement farming.’ This term describes a strategy where well-known individuals capitalize on notoriety to attract viewers. This often aligns with social media algorithms that favor discussions, especially those fueled by conflict or heated exchanges.
During the lengthy discussion, both Newsom and Biden embarked on personal reflections. Newsom shared insights about his relationship with his father. Meanwhile, Biden gave an open assessment of his pardon, highlighting the impact it had. He remarked, “That’s how much you know my dad loves me. He chose me over his political legacy.”

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